Why American soccer culture is complicated



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As soccer increases in popularity in the USA, the fans’ passion increases. As passionate fans try to emulate their South American and European counterparts, Ultras groups begin to form.

However, in the USA, Ultras groups aren’t forming for the same reasons groups in the rest of the world were formed.

Written by James Montague, illustrated by Philippe Fenner.

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28 thoughts on “Why American soccer culture is complicated”

  1. Don’t listen to the hate from European soccer ultras. Most of them are sick in the head. The best fan culture in soccer is in Germany, and it’s called out for being inclusive. BvB, st. Pauli, etc.

  2. For me
    The Pacific Northwest
    Is the cradle of
    Soccer ( Football ) in the
    North America.

    Out with that
    M.L.S is growing
    In Atalanta & L.A in my view but it is struggleing to really take root in other
    North American citys in my view.

    I am Scottish I love
    North American Sports in general since 1993.

    In terms of
    M.L.S Seattle Sounders are my club.

    The U.S.L needs much more investment it's on a par with our none league
    or Juniors football as we say in Scotland in my view I keep an eye on
    Pittsburgh Riverhounds
    I am a massive fan of
    Pittsburgh as a city..

    Go Burgh.

  3. I dont think theres anything wrong with the USA having, or trying to have an ultra culture. What is cringe is when they compare themselves to the EU or SA culture where clubs are sometimes over 100 years old and the culture has been passed down for 2/3+ generations. For us in the EU clubs arent a franchise established by a corporation, its local history and heritage, its literally in our DNA. In my opinion the MLS doesnt have that at all, maybe in time it will.

  4. Geography is a big problem. Fans can’t just drive or hop on a train to away games. It showed in the Copa America where Canada didn’t play a single ‘home’ game where their fans were in the majority.

  5. In countries like America and Australia, where other football codes are more popular, soccer is adversarially policed, and soccer fans pre-determined as guilty by perceived association to hooliganism of past examples in other countries. There's also an insecurity at the heart of US and Australian rules football from an awareness of their insignificance on the global stage next to soccer, that causes fans of those games to lash out at soccer fans (e.g. "you're a bunch of diving pansies", "why don't you play a real man's sport?", "your fans are hooligans and thugs")

  6. Ive become a big fan of MLS over the past decade or so, and part of why i like it is its charm. It is, on the field, football as normal. In the stands, its different in every quarter. Sellout stadiums, some with no atmosphere some with genuinely brilliant atmospheres. I cant knock fans of the sport i love, from a country that mocked it for many years finally getting on board in its own unique way. MLS Cup is genuinely a thrill tonwatch, and some of the atmospheres and the weather conditions make the sport a pleasure to watch, imo

  7. As long as they are franchises and promotion/relegation doesn’t exist fan’s dont matter. They’re a replaceable accessory instead of playing an important role in the club.

  8. It's not that complex. They have no culture. They just try to get by by copying the British and European styles and any attempt to create their own is frankly pathetic ("I believe that we will win" and "U-S-A" are frankly laughable). The problem is that they try to make the atmosphere too "family friendly" and that just kills it immediately.

  9. The problem will always be size. England has more than 10 tiers and more than 1,000 clubs. England is the size of Alabama.

    We don’t have a D-1-2-3 at the moment. We have a D1-3-6 (at best) such is the enormous financial gaps between divisions. That disparity has been in place for generations and isn’t going to lessen anytime soon.

  10. A lot of triggered MLS fans here. There is nothing more plastic than a league that will "move" a team and rebrand it because its not making enough money. Franchise sports are the worst.

    You are not allowed to fail which makes parrity poor. 20th place team in EPL get the boot and a $2m payout. You can be the worst in the MLS and receive a nice 'profit sharing' payout.

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