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Bayern Munich have dominated the Bundesliga for more than ten years.
But has this hegemony become a problem for German football?
An analysis of the structural causes, the Leverkusen paradox, and the limits of the current model.
00:00 : The state of the Bundesliga today
01:35 : How did Bayern become so powerful?
05:26 : Leverkusen and the 2023–2024 season
08:22 : The REAL problem of German football
12:38 : How can Bayern be challenged?
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But of course, Leipzig and Hoffenheim are the enemy. They are all happy to be pimped by Bayern and give Bayern their best players to use to crush them, but they hate two teams who try to compete and challenge the dominancrle. They are all happy for Bayern to win 100 years in a row. What a boring football league.
Its not because of bayern, it's because of the 50+1 ownership model. Completely off base video
Decline of the bundesliga? they are doing pretty good in the UCL and that when the majority of their top players were sold.
German fans deserve this for shitting on red bull liepzig! I wish rbl went the galactico route instead of the arsene wegner route. How can you hate the rbl development model? 50 +1 up yours bundesliga fans!
La Liga generates so much money because of Latin American viewers, so it's not because La Liga is much better to watch than Bundesliga. There are also a ton of Latin American Players. The title goes to Madrid or Barcelona, it's equally predictable and both Teams spend millions and go into debt while the rest of the Leagues is mid. The Bundesliga does not have this cultural reach and will never have it. Even if Bayern would be dethroned for years, it wouldn't increase the reach of the Bundesliga, it would make it more fun for Germans.
I stop following the German league beacause u already know who is going to win the league all the time.. I like Borussia but I will never understand why they sell the best player to Bayern is almost like they don't want to be champions 🤔
Only in Champs League is there challenge for Bayern.
Also a big problem is the visa requirement for players from other countries, its much more difficult, i mostly watch bundesliga but lets say a team wanted to buy a young prospect from south america, its 10 times more difficult to get visa compare to other european countries, unless you are a big name player, its difficult, so basically the league is full of mostly german players or just other european players are not the best compare to what they could get outside, so most of the football world find it less entertaining to watch
The "Bore-Liga" has been dead since Klopp left Dortmund. They might as well give Bayern the title in August and be done with it. Does anyone outside of Germany even watch it? The Premier League is clear of this "Bore-Liga" garbage.
Dortmund letting themselves become the Bayern academy is part of the reason
There is a way to introduce unpredictability —knock out stages. A system of points rewards the best team 9 out of 10 times, but knock out games are more like a 60-40 or 55-45 gamble. Reduce the number of games for points and introduce knock out stages for the top 4 or top 8 teams. Bayern Munich will still win most times, but it won’t be as often as it is now. Because of such levels of inequality, all leagues should do this. In France PSG dominates. In Spain, Barcelona and Real Madrid dominate. We have similar cases in other leagues. Including knock out stages, we are can see more dark horses, and teams who often end up second, third, fourth place, will win more times. The answer is to introduce knock out stages.
The wage discrepancy between Bayern and the rest is even larger than between PSG and the rest of Ligue 1.
Bayern can also do what Real does: Break rules pertaining to negotiations with contracted players. That saves on transfer sums which translates to even more money for wages. Additionally, they can poach all the youth players they want because that's where (professionally speaking) every player wants to end up.
It's ultimately down to plastic fans. The club is made for two groups of people: The rich who get their insanely expensive corporate boxes where they don't even watch matches and absolute losers who pick the club that always wins because they never win anything in their own lives. If they stop winning, they lose virtually their entire fan base, but due to their plastic fan base, they probably won't stop winning.
"Funny" side note: If you ask regular German football fans about who the biggest problem for German football is, they will point at Leipzig and Hoffenheim. Those are plastic clubs themselves, but their impact pales in comparison with how Bayern destroys the Bundesliga.
We do not know when it will change. I suppose that in the next two or three years Bayern will still be winnung all or at least most titles. But it has also a lot to do with who is in charge and also the players. Maybe if players like Kane, Diaz, Tah, Kimmich and Neuer will retire or become less good with age and Olise moves to another club and if Bayern cannot replace them effectively.
I think 1820 Munich might not agree with you that Bayern don’t cheat
Honestly the 50+1 rule will kill German football in Europe except for Bayern and they don’t have a rival club. In Italy you have Milan, Inter and Juve and they hate each other, in England Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal and now city and Chelsea who all hate each other, in Spain we have the biggest game in the world and in Germany what do they have ? Der Klassiker isn’t even a real rivalry so fans can’t get emotionally invested
Misleading first of all, no need to be a billionaire daddy's football experiment.
Only premtards aren't happy with the league, 16 euro to watch top tier football, you can't have a sniff of football in England for 16 pounds.
Im surprised you didn't mention Jurgen Klopp beating Bayern twice but then leaving after a few seasons as he was tired off the club having too sell star players to Bayern. He was the biggest loss for the Bundesliga and the biggest gain for the premier league.
FC Bayern, Stern des Südens, du wirst niemals untergehen, weil wir in guten wie in schlechten Zeiten zu einander stehen! FC Bayern Deutscher Meister ja so heißt er, mein Verein, ja so war es und so ist es und so wird es immer sein!
For those who say bayern signs from bundesliga clubs .. It is Bvb signs most bundesliga players, check it.. Bayern is only 8th in that in the league.. Bvb signed more bayern players than bayern ever did
Bundesliga don't deserve mighty bayern
Good, promising players who play for other than Bayern shouldn't leave their clubs. Part of the problem is greedy players who don't stay in their clubs and try to build a legacy with it.
Bayern did not EC1 in 1972 or 1973.
You know things are bad when bundesliga matches are shown on YouTube. Dead league, like the French league. Premier league is not far behind
The Bundesliga, despite everything, is the second best league in Europe. It's more entertaining and of better quality than the Spanish and Italian leagues. More goals, more beautiful goals, better atmosphere, better financially. The quality of a league isn't about exclusively about what team wins. Blame the other clubs for selling their best players. The season previous to Bayer Leverkusen title, FC Bayern München won the league on goal difference to Borussia Dortmund when this club had the title in their hands. Bayern München have won many leagues on the 32 round out of 34 and in many cases because RB Leipzig and Borussia Dortmund wasted their chances. That's competitiveness. Tell me of another league where in two consecutive rounds, no home team managed to get a win. Well, that happened last season. If each season fucking English clubs, Real Madrid and FC Barcelona offer a lot of money for players that may have been playing for one, two or three seasons, what can they do? If they want to continue in the Bundesliga, the normal thing is to sign for FC Bayern München. Otherwise, they will want to move somewhere else to earn more money. There's only one club in England that guarantee titles in England and that's Manchester City. How many players from the Bundesliga are in Manchester City's squad? This season, Liverpool FC has dismantled Bayer Leverkusen and all English clubs have former Bundesliga players. Thank God, some Premier League players have signed for some Bundesliga clubs in the last five or six seasons, especially Borussia Dortmund and FC Bayern München. We can't blame FC Bayern München for signing the current top three players in Europe this season, right? Harry Kane, Michael Olise and Luis Díaz. They were wasting their time there so where to move? To a German club that historically is better than any English club. FC Bayern München are the second most important club in European competitions behind Real Madrid. There's a point system that proves it. FC Bayern München hold lots of European records and this season lots of local records are being broken. Sorry to tell you, FC Bayern München's haters, this club don't sign players from the Bundesliga to weaken the other clubs. Borussia Dortmund, Bayer Leverkusen and Wolfsburg have signed more players within the Bundesliga than FC Bayern München in the last twelve seasons. Another story is that they sign better players. Sometimes, some players aren't successful, for example Sadio Mane from Liverpool, a few from RB Leipzig or from Spain. So please, stop using pejorative names and lies about the Bundesliga. Enough is enough, it's not funny, it's getting boring and only proves the stupidity and lack of football knowledge. English fans continue making fun of Harry Kane no matter what he does for the simple fact that he played for Tottenham Hotspur and moved to Germany. He was already one of the top three strikers in the world while he was playing in England. Now, he's without any doubt, the best and most complete striker. You, fucking English fans, don't deserve a player of that calibre. Besides, he's one of the nicest guys in football. You probably prefer to have Vinicius Jr and Mbappe, the two most idiotic and disgusting current players in your team, right? No wonder how pathetic the UK has become, you don't deserve anything better with that shitty mentality. Only one more thing, fuck you all. I said from the first game of this season, that haters of Kane and FC Bayern München would be suffering the whole season and it's going according to plan. Prepare to cry until the end of the season. I said that Manchester City would farm the EPL the day they signed Erling Haaland. I remember people saying that he wouldn't score as many goals in England because it was too easy in Germany. The same was said of Lewandowski when he signed for FC Barcelona. The Spanish league is much better. 😂😂😂. My ass!😂😂😂.
I remember back in 2013 when the UCL final was between 2 German clubs: Bayern München and Borussia Dortmund. Bayern won 2-1, but everyone agreed that the real winner was the Germany's Nationalmannschaft because of the stars. The following year, Germany won the World Cup. All because teams could compete. But as soon as Bayern Munich started buying up all stars from other clubs, problems started and the national team began to suffer. Until this is addressed, the Bundesliga will keep suffering.
Bayern Munich should not be blamed for the League's decline.They simply try to take care of their own by improving themselves in having the best players. Instead it is the wealthy EPL and La Liga that continue weakening it and even add insult to injury by calling it Farmer's League!
As long as the brainrot UEFA decides not to introduce caps, nothing is gonna change and the entire sport will remain pretty much uninteresting at this point
Other than Bayern they're not serious about winning breh
Luchooo left Liverpool repentant! Luchoo a lucky trophy winner. ❤
All that you're talking about is about money, the premier league teams are more richer, the only team in the Bundesliga that can compete is Bayern
They are the Goliath of the Bundesliga. Other teams can occasionally win a title, but in order to catch up you can't make any mistakes in personnel over at least a ten year period. Meanwhile, Bayern keep getting richer and stronger.
Liverpool alone took two of Leverkusen's best players and one of the best strikers in the league
If Bayern did this you wouldn't shut up about it
You are hypocrites
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German football fans blame 'oil money' for UCL losses and 'sportswashing' for World Cup failures. It’s all scapegoating and putting others down rather than any actual self-reflection on their own decline.
Farmers League
This is misleading. The decline isn't because of Bayern. It's because if the pressure put on the prem by Saudi which led to the premiere league clubs looking into players profiles which were usually targets of other Bundesliga Clubs.
On top of that England in general. Their championship is buying those profiles also and they started looking in the second tier as well.
Problem is consistency of the teams we can blame Bayern for everything look this season for example
As a german: You gave it a nice try, but still left out quite a bit!
First of all, you left out all personal involvements like why Uli Hoeneß committed himself to his former club like his life depended on it, the relations of the TV boss who turned the newly introduced money allocation key towards Bayern München's Advantage or the fact how Bayern München got their stadium basically for free.
Another important fact is, how Uli Hoeneß impacted federal football by publically attacking rivaling figures like national coaches, reporters, club managers, coaches and especially players! He ended many careers with his phone calls into Talkshows or his Tweets! He more or less attacked anything that endangered the Status Quo of Bayerns dominance, prominent is for example his angry speech at the Clubs General Meeting where he attacked the clubs fans which criticized Bayern Münchens as well as Hoeneß' and Rummenige's personal entanglement with Qatar and the treatment against protesting fans.
Another milestone is the Dortmund era from 2010-2012 where they more or less ridiculed Bayern München, notably in the 5:2 cup final defeat in 2012. After this incident, the bosses, especially Hoeneß were so angry that they did everything to outdo Dortmund (without any rules)like buying the best players from Dortmund year after year, notably Mario Götze and published this information on the evening before the CL final 2012/13, which Dortmund of course lost then. Bayern in general spent way higher sums than previously which you also could see in the transfers they did ever since, be in the coaches, the players or else.
Besides Bayern München, to be honest, also simply kept house better than its' rivals, it had always the advantage of the location in comparison to every other city in Germany (not only in size but also in wealth) as well a very entangled relationship to the second biggest sports brand in the entire world.
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This is what happened in Scotland.
We're 40 years in now.
The reason is 50+1 rule. Bayern is 75% owned by fans and competes against EPL TV rights money, filthy rich oil sheiks, american billionaires, russian tycoons and so on. What a great club.
Bayern did not cheat?? 🤣Look up "Kirch-Affäre" my friend.
Thats easy its becauee the stupid bundesliga allowed bayern to gut its strongest competitor Dortmund. How can a league let this happen wheres the commercial minds how can you sell tv rights if only 1 team always wins
Bundesliga belongs to Bayern
True, Bayern is literally problem for the German football that's why they started letting referees to do anything possible to let them down but they couldn't. If you are not just a Bayern but a football fan who doesn't hate when the jokes are aside, you know I am right.
No mention of the 2000's , where we had the most parity with 5 different winners.