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Funnily enough, that wasn't the most egregious hold in the box in the DC Toronto game.
Benteke gets wrapped often. But there was one particular corner in the first half where the defender fully bear-hugged him with proper locked hands in front.
But big man tax means Benteke usually doesn't get those calls.
thats a goal
horrible red on 3
obvious dive on 91
klaus is a known diver. he dives all over the pitch in every game. you cry wolf so much you arent getting the benefit in close calls. deservedly so.
Both those Miamj fouls shouldve been called. Its how they score half the time. Make a clear foul and it doesnt get called so they get an advantage. If these players are so good they shouldnt have to play so dirty. Also wish the Zimmermann dive that got Nashville the second PK was discussed. It was a bad call
It honestly disgusts me that our "top officials" make horrible referee decisions like Unkel. The red to Elliot is an absolute disgrace to the referee process.
The color of the card isn't the issue, it's the way he made his decision. Awarding a yellow, then changing to red after you see the aftermath WITHOUT any intervention from the referee team (linesmen, fourth official and VAR). It's an error on one of the fundamentals of refereeing.
Suarez plays for the Messi team so it's not a foul.
As a Sporting fan might I suggest Klauss hit the gym and get stronger so he doesn't get bungled over so easily.
That Austin one stung like a mf. Wish it was on here.
Angulo did not 'initiate contact'. He was avoiding a tackle by the keeper, very successfully btw, and had to change direction. The defender came in fast and couldn't avoid the attacker who was 100% playing the ball. PK all day.
The CLT/ATL goal/no goal debate just shows how horrible it is that MLS doesn't have goal line cameras or technology implemented! Obviously as a CLT fan, I am glad the decision went the way it did, but the fact that there is even a debate one way or the other is unnecessary when a camera could easily be placed in the goal line or chips in the ball or any of the other implementations of goal line technology that is currently used at professional levels around the world.
So Suarez clips the runner's foot from behind, tripping him, and he says it should have been a foul. Then we see Angulo running and the defender clips his foot from behind, tripping him. But in his opinion, that was Angulo initiating contact? Same contact, different opinions. Ruling that a player initiated contact has to be by an unnatural motion, as we've heard hundreds of times that a player has no obligation to avoid contact. As Angulo was rounding the keeper to take a shot, his stride was neither unnatural nor intentional. And even if we pretend he stumbled due to his own action, he did not go down and he could have recovered to take a shot into an open goal. The defender bundling him over and finishing the job should still have been a foul even viewed under that lens. This was an ironclad penalty and not calling the ref over to the monitor for review should result in sanctions for the VAR crew.
get a better mic! sounds like hot trash
If it takes 3-4 plus minutes and you have to play around with the video by speeding it up and slowing it down, then it's not a clear, obvious error. VAR has always been about fixing clear and obvious errors.
This is the second home game in a row that Atlanta has been screwed by the VAR getting it wrong.
People's livelihoods are determined in part by these calls. Pineda and at least two of his assistants were also terminated. Those assistants have families. Same with staffers and their families, too.
I have massive issues with how VAR is being applied this year. For example, since when is the VAR supposed to call for the game to be stopped to check something. You can literally hear them on audio saying, āStop the gameā¦ stop the gameā now. That happens every week now.
I'm very interested in hearing the audio and seeing the video of what the VAR and ref looked at and talked about as they came to this decision. Hopefully it will be out tomorrow or Sarutday morning.
Iām glad Austin did not play. The Refs were get make bad calls for both sides.
Not sure how the last one is not a PK? Their reasoning doesnāt even make sense. How does the Orlando player initiate contact with a defender behind him? In any other league in the world, if a player is in control of the ball, and his legs are clipped from behind. Itās a foul. Just making things up to not make their referees look bad
Looking at the shadows of the ball and keeperās arm in the Atlanta goal, not only was it not a clear and obvious evidence of a goal, I think itās very likely a healthy portion of the ball was over the line. The multiple angles do seem to conclusively show the right hand as being just in front of the line and so is its shadow. Between that and the slo mo of the ballās shadow as it bounces, I think the light source is nearly directly overhead and the ballās shadow clearly never crosses the line.
I wouldnāt have overturned any call on the field on that evidence. But in my neutral heart of hearts, I am pretty sure that was a great save.
Defenders knew that first one was a goal.
Is that NE handball even a handball? player certainly did not intentionally handle the ball. Turning around after a shot is rebounded, with his arm in a natural position and a shot hammered at him from 1 yard away, if anything he even tries to sweep his arm behind his back. I have no problem calling it a penalty, or letting play continue. But no card no way.
Bad week for refs, good week for Wiebe
You're fucking blind. ššš
To me, itās pretty obvious that the ball went over the line in Atlanta. Iām looking at the goalkeeperās foot on the line, the angle of his body and the portion of the net that his arm is pointing to when he pushes the ball out, as well as the shadow of the ball. It all points to the ball being past the line. However, despite it being obvious to me, if it isnāt obvious to you then it isnāt clear and obvious and no goal shouldāve been awarded. We need goal line tech in our league.
As a CLT fan, in the stadium and on the broadcast, it did not look like a goal. Certainly not clear and obvious, but as for the other two ā¦.
Thank you Wiebe, this is one of the best episodes of IR this year. Fouls are always weird and subjective, especially in soccer, so I love how a lot more of this one was just acknowledging the different points.
Also finally calling out a Miami call, what's next LAFC? Can't wait for that one
Last clip..Orlando, you canāt run with 2 legs because if someone comes through the back of you itās your fault š¤
How can mls not afford 2 GoPro cameras on each goal line? The decision is made from off angles 500 feet away?
Miami getting all the breaks. Whoās surprised.
It was a bad call to give Charlotte a goal but at least Atlanta can move towards a coaching change now.
St. Louis, you need to understand Inter Messi gets all the calls in their favor. Definitely a foul if it was any other team.
STL MIA game was total bull. Suarez goal was a foul, that offsides at the end wouldn't have been clear and obvious for other teams. At one point Miami basically tackled Pompeu just outside the box on a run. Game was handed to MIA.
I've been critical of InstantReplay before but I found this a really good episode. Lots of clips, and nuanced conversations covering each one instead of just a 2 second agreement.
Well done Wiebe. Good episode
Nothing with the musovski goal in Seattle that was a soft foul
Nothing on Austin and Obrian getting fucked over in Salt Lake? Utter BS.
The MLS YouTube account is ran so well love this typa content
Even as a charlotte fan, I agree with the Atlanta fans that we need goal line technology. Although I'm happy we won, I'm not sure about the first charlotte goal that was given. PLEASE JUST BUY GOAL LINE TECHNOLOGY
I was sitting down the line for the Atlanta goal, none of us thought it went in
How how how do you overturn that call in Atlanta? Whatās the definition of clear and obvious????
"you can't wrap your arms around a guy in the box on a set piece" – let's remember this quote for every other instance this happens and a PK is not awarded
It was a goal don,t be stupid
This is a āVAR red card.ā How can a regular referee give a red in this situation? Heās playing the ball (he played the ball), heās low, thereās no straight leg. Heās sliding (more control than being airborne) and heās showing consideration after the touch by staying low and minimizing force. This type of call confuses players. You can make an argument that the injured player caused the collision (and injury) with a late challenge. Ugh.
I assure you the ball did not cross the line in Atlanta vs Charlotte game