In this week’s episode of Instant Replay Son Heung-min wasted no time making headlines in his MLS debut, winning a penalty against Chicago. Meanwhile, USMNT and RSL star Diego Luna saw red in a controversial decision after being horse-collared to the ground. Plus, we break down a serious foul play tackle in Cincinnati vs. Charlotte FC and more of the weekendâs biggest referee decisions.
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Luna got screwed over
We're not going to talk about the fact that DUNCAN'S RED CARD WAS REVIEWED AFTER A PLAY HAD HAPPENED, MEANING THAT HE COULD NOT HAVE BEEN SENT OFF IN THE GAME! Should he have? In my opinion, yes. Does it no longer matter after they screwed up and did not review after a play had happened? Also, YES! I don't understand why this wasn't mentioned here, forsberg literally took the free kick that was earned by the Luna "foul" meaning that the play cannot be reviewed after the fact.
Referee Tim Ford was wrong, MLS review rules for Whitecaps
Andrew give your head a shake and tell me that Tim fordâs reffing was good
ESPN is running a story on how Professional Referee Organization (PRO) did nothing after referee Tim Ford was caught attending an LAFC match. Ford has a history of atrocious calls going back to 2023. Ford made 2 more bad calls in this week's instant replay. Now we know from Ford's wife Instagram feed that he has a favorite MLS team and it shouldn't surprise anyone that Ford's favorite team benefited from the outcome of the San Jose Vancouver game. What could possibly go wrong when MLS referees pick a favorite team?
I love your show but Union really need their own episode. Maybe a compilation cuz we always get the horrible refs.
UNION GOT ROBBED!!! Spread the word! DOOOP!!! (Baribos goal got taken away when the Toronto player literally made a touch and Sullivan got punched and nothing happened)
Ocampos yellow was reversed. So you were wrong Andrew.
Independent review panel UPHOLDS Vancouver Whitecaps appeal of Edier Ocampo's red card. What now, Wiebe??
"The Independent Review Panel, consisting of one representative from U.S. Soccer, one representative from Canada Soccer and one independent representative nominated by the Professional Referee Organization, has unanimously voted to rescind the one-game suspension and accompanying fine for the second yellow card issued to Vancouver Whitecaps FC defender Ădier Ocampo in the 27th minute of Vancouverâs match against the San Jose Earthquakes on August 9. Ocampo is now eligible to play in Vancouverâs next regular season match vs. Houston Dynamo FC on Sunday, August 17."
Thought that should be appended to the comments section, just to show that an independent review agrees that Tim Ford overreacted.
Iâm an FCC fan, so I know Iâm biased, but I think the pull from Zaha, albeit slight, is sufficient to either be a foul, or at the very least remove doubt as to the lack of intent or recklessness behind Anungaâs challenge. The only reason he was late was because of Zahaâs pull. My issue with the commentatorâs point about Anunga âshruggingâ the contact off is that it suggests that players should fall at the slightest contact in order to guarantee a call, no matter how slight the contact. And what does that get you? Instances like the Houston-Austin penalty, where itâs technically contact and therefore a foul, but so slight that itâs â85% simulation.â Which is it? Either we want our players to fall at every touch or we want them to play through the minimal contact. I think it should be the latter, and we shouldnât penalize players for doing so.
So my favorite part about the FC Cincinnati discussion, is that absolutely none of what you said is what people are taking issue with. Some people feel that the tackle attempt by Zaha that slows Anunga down should have been whistled for a foul. I am not sold on that but the bigger issue is AFTER the review, FC Cincinnati had the free kick. What needed to be explained was how did FCC get the red card but then received the kick. Was the foul given in favor of Cincy after the review? If so, how was that not taken into consideration on the red card review? All questions you did not answer and is the reason FC Cincinnati fans were outraged. Nobody is question that it was egregious contact, what is in question is the lack of continuity and clarity. Yet again this show obfuscates the questions that should be being asked of the officials. VAR should have open audio available for the broadcast. Until then, VAR is creating more issues than fixing problems.
I noticed A LOT of refs are going for the VERY SOFT second yellow now for a red card because it does not interfere with their egos by having it challenged by VAR. I have never seen as many second yellows since VAR started.
The Vancouver one was not a second yellow., and it was not even a foul. The defender has every right to exist. The fact that the attacker is not looking where he is going is not the defenders fault. And I say this as a Timbers fan and have a deeper dislike of Vancouver BC than most other fans.
ROFLâŠall the holding and pushing and rugby tackling. Why MLS will never be a top league. And the analysis is a joke.
The reviews here are way to in favour of the ref. The commentator needs to realize that most of the calls on the field were wrong. VAR helped in some instances but he is supporting the on the field call too much. Itâs the initial calls that are the problem. Then the ref puts himself in a bad situation and the players are just suppose to suck it up and take it because they canât find evidence to over turn the call. Only the Luna call was done correctly over all. The rest were wrong on the field call and wrong decision to either ignore VAR or not think there was enough evidence. The Ocampo was dead wrong as was the penalty afterwards as the shooter could have just as easily got a diving penalty. Heâs just throwing his body to get a call. Ford should retire.
Straight up doesnât acknowledge the advantage on the cincy call keep kissing PROâs butt MLS
This issue with the call on Cincy was the fact that the ref played advantage to Cincy when we didnât even have a clear opportunity at goal so realistically the foul shouldâve been back on the foul Charlottes committed on Bucha.
Gotta love weibe just not even addressing the 3 fouls on cincy that were not called during that play
Crazy that Diego Luna got a red card when the AR called a foul against NY but the central ref calls foul on Lunađ var canât get involved but the AR can.
Yooo, I find myself heređ
Wiebe you moron, the problem is that the play should have been blown dead when Zaha fouled Anunga. There was no advantage on the play and if you watch, the ref pointed the wrong way for the penalty. It makes no sense that a red was shown and FCC maintained possession.
Not dealing with mass confrontation is annoying. I donât think a âonly captains can talkâ is needed if dissent is addressed. Letâs learn from rugby.
none about stl city sc
Stop talking about there being a touch when the defender goes through the attacker to get there.
Why is there no leagues cup instant replay like last year??
What you didn't mention was that Tehran got a yellow but he should've gotten a red because he denied a goal scoring opportunity.
The question I still have about the Luna-Duncan incident is about the yellow the referee seems to be rescinding after the VAR review (3:20). Was Duncan cautioned originally? At first I thought he was rescinding Lunaâs second yellow, but Luna never returned to the field. Halp?
Are we not going to acknowledge the NSC and STL game where Teal Bunburyâs shirt got pulled up and he was called for a foul (NSC was going to score and make it a 1 goal game)
I'd really like to see the yellow cards for embellishments come back, u can't fake a foul a second later after both your feet are clearly on the ground đ
MLS needs to look at their refs. How is Tim Ford allowed to officiate another Vancouver game, or any at this level, is beyond me.
6:15 I think the MLS has gone down a dangerous path with contact in the box being considered in favour of a pen. I am fine with the idea of VAR having to determine a clear and obvious error to send the ref to the monitor, but I would much rather a change at the monitor so that the Ref must re-evaluate the contact. Was there contact, Yes, did the contact alter the trajectory of the attacking player, I don't see that happening. For me, if he goes down it is either his error or simulation, not a foul. The pen was only held up because technically the defender and attacker had some contact…Â
I think that after the call on the field was made everything did follow the rulebook, technically can't be overturned. I also think that almost every rule related to VAR needs to be changed for next season, VAR is taking too long for "clear and obvious calls" Sometimes in excess of 2-3 minutes! A lot of reviews are very soft, and when it is clearly an error like in this case, it can't be overturned by the ref because there is a slight nudge of contact.
I also disagree with the Yellow call on Ocampo, foul sure, but would that be a yellow anywhere else on the field?
Am I crazy for thinking that the 2nd Ocampo yellow is shoulder to shoulder? It goes the line pretty close
I guess Philly v Toronto v Tori Penso could be its own episode. How is this person still a referee in MLS?
Ortiz flop = 100% simulation. You always use the term ânegligible contactâ this has to be the definition of ânegligible contactâ. You also didnât mention it took at least 8 minutes of review to come to the decision, which means itâs not clear and obvious.
get better refs
lolâŠâŠ..you probably just lost your entire Vancouver audience.
This has to be an all-time worst week of MLS refereeing, so many unexplainably bad decisions, of course all explained away with the same script every week by the league-owned media đ€Šââ
Only Teran DOES touch the ball.