Stll SAF is better he had a washed team when man u team when he dirst he came to coach them they were struggling meanwhile pep had a decent man city team that had money which he could buy any players he want
It wasn't "easy" though. He completely underestimated the league in his first season then massively overhauled the team. Even last season, he went through the worst period of his career and only just got through it.
His job at Man City wasn't to dominate the league, it was to get bring in as many UCLs as possible.
Iโm sorry but only ever having managed a top team and winning leagues with Bayern Munich, Messi Barca, and city in an era where they had practically unlimited resources does not qualify as best manager ever. Bayern wins the league most years, even pelligrini won the league with city during that time and Messi is Messi not to mention xavi, iniesta, etc. sorry if some people arenโt impressed by โnumber of titlesโ
The bias and inaccuracy of these posts is criminal. Sir Alex doesn't have 13 titles, he has 16. So Pep is not so near to equaling his record. And look at who they won those titles with. Aberdeen hadn't won a league title in over 23 years when Sir Alex took over and play in a league dominated by the Old Firm with over 100 titles between then; they were champions again 2 years later and won a European trophy within 5 years, in his time there Aberdeen win the league 3 times – more than they'd ever won it in the club's history! That'd be the equivalent of Pep winning La Liga with Valencia several times and then the UCL. Man Utd had been 19 years without a title when Ferguson took over and were floundering nearer to relegation than title challengers and were significantly behind Liverpool and Arsenal in the all time league title numbers. When he left they'd won more league titles under him than all other managers put together (nearly double, infact) and were record title winners and had 2 UCL wins and a ECWC, were 2 time double winners and a historic treble win.
In contrast Pep took over a Barcelona who were champions only 2 years ago and playing in a league with the same 3 title contenders most years (of which Barcelona were always one). He took over Bayern when they were reigning champions and then in Man City he took over the richest club in the world who were champions just 2 years ago, having won 2 of the last 5 title races.
Pep took over champions and contenders, teams playing champions league football with ample recent success and continued this trend. They won before him, they continue to do so after he's gone. Ferguson took over a club that rarely won the league before he arrived (and never had since) and gave them success beyond their dreams with Aberdeen. Utd were never minnows and Busby built their foundations as legends but Ferguson's era defined the team they are today without him they'd be another Spurs.
Pep is a brilliant coach but his achievements aren't comparible with Ferguson's.
Donโt get me wrong as a barca fan i love pep. But moving from the greatest barcelona team to Bayern, the to city and their greatest teams with unlimited money. Amazing coach but i think there are coached who would have been just as successful.
No disrespect to both managers truly greats of the game but let's be honest Sir Alex Ferguson farm England for 26 years and got 13 league titles which is nothing short of great but then their's Pep ๐ bro farm Europe for almost a decade less and still is just one league title short (for now)!!
7 premier league titles won as a manager is so fucking good but it still not on the same scale of 13 premier league titles. not when city have so many charges against them.
how the hell its 13๐๐ he's in man city 10 years only
the only football manager in history with job security๐
Stll SAF is better he had a washed team when man u team when he dirst he came to coach them they were struggling meanwhile pep had a decent man city team that had money which he could buy any players he want
Pep did that in 3 diff leagues Fergie did it in 1 he has a lot more to go to break fergies title
I just read it and now i want Arsenal to win
No matter what pep do now the future he'll never be in the same bracket with Fergie.
So 6 titles equal to 13 now?
It wasn't "easy" though. He completely underestimated the league in his first season then massively overhauled the team. Even last season, he went through the worst period of his career and only just got through it.
His job at Man City wasn't to dominate the league, it was to get bring in as many UCLs as possible.
pep after he know tottenham will relegated
Clown fergie
Greatest athletes actor of all time
Ah yes in 10 years in the premier league pep is about to win his 13th premier league
6 and 13 are now same ๐คช
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ๐ถ๐ถ๐ถโoh sir alex is full of SHIT full of SHIT SHIT and more SHIT oh sir alex is full of SHIT
Yeah 1+6 = 13๐๐ what ridiculous shit is this
Whoever wrote this post needs a lesson in basic algebra
1)SAF
2)Pep Guardiola
3)Jose Mourinho
4)Ancelotti
5)Klopp
6)Flick
7)Zidane
8)Enrique
9)Arteta
10)Scaloni
Iโm sorry but only ever having managed a top team and winning leagues with Bayern Munich, Messi Barca, and city in an era where they had practically unlimited resources does not qualify as best manager ever. Bayern wins the league most years, even pelligrini won the league with city during that time and Messi is Messi not to mention xavi, iniesta, etc.
sorry if some people arenโt impressed by โnumber of titlesโ
The bias and inaccuracy of these posts is criminal. Sir Alex doesn't have 13 titles, he has 16. So Pep is not so near to equaling his record. And look at who they won those titles with. Aberdeen hadn't won a league title in over 23 years when Sir Alex took over and play in a league dominated by the Old Firm with over 100 titles between then; they were champions again 2 years later and won a European trophy within 5 years, in his time there Aberdeen win the league 3 times – more than they'd ever won it in the club's history! That'd be the equivalent of Pep winning La Liga with Valencia several times and then the UCL. Man Utd had been 19 years without a title when Ferguson took over and were floundering nearer to relegation than title challengers and were significantly behind Liverpool and Arsenal in the all time league title numbers. When he left they'd won more league titles under him than all other managers put together (nearly double, infact) and were record title winners and had 2 UCL wins and a ECWC, were 2 time double winners and a historic treble win.
In contrast Pep took over a Barcelona who were champions only 2 years ago and playing in a league with the same 3 title contenders most years (of which Barcelona were always one). He took over Bayern when they were reigning champions and then in Man City he took over the richest club in the world who were champions just 2 years ago, having won 2 of the last 5 title races.
Pep took over champions and contenders, teams playing champions league football with ample recent success and continued this trend. They won before him, they continue to do so after he's gone. Ferguson took over a club that rarely won the league before he arrived (and never had since) and gave them success beyond their dreams with Aberdeen. Utd were never minnows and Busby built their foundations as legends but Ferguson's era defined the team they are today without him they'd be another Spurs.
Pep is a brilliant coach but his achievements aren't comparible with Ferguson's.
With a lot of genocide money
Donโt get me wrong as a barca fan i love pep. But moving from the greatest barcelona team to Bayern, the to city and their greatest teams with unlimited money. Amazing coach but i think there are coached who would have been just as successful.
Greatest money manager of all time.
Cruijff > Pep
Michels > Pep
Ancelotti > Pep
Sacchi > Pep
Cheating can do anything breaching ffp can do anything bribing fifa and uefa and bpl officials can give you infinite number of trophies
Maybe not the greatest for me but the best in modern times and Barcelona fans know why
No he's not he hasn't got 13 Premier league titles so far
This is a piss take right?
No disrespect to both managers truly greats of the game but let's be honest Sir Alex Ferguson farm England for 26 years and got 13 league titles which is nothing short of great but then their's Pep ๐ bro farm Europe for almost a decade less and still is just one league title short (for now)!!
Goofy comment by SAF considering how pep humiliated him H2H
Sir Alex won a European Trophy with Aberdeen. The last time Madrid lost a European final was in that final. I rest my case.
7 premier league titles won as a manager is so fucking good but it still not on the same scale of 13 premier league titles. not when city have so many charges against them.
He's never built a team like fergie he's walked into title winning teams any manager can do that well overrated ๐
As a gunnerโฆ. Sir. Alex Ferguson is the greatest manager in history of football.
Other than Foden whoโs come through the academy and contributed?
Even with the hype, Pep is under rated. Equalizing the best record at Young age itself is a record.
Yeah with alot of money
Equaling aside….but 7 titles in 10 season….that alone cements ๐ status in the PL