You have to commit players for that overload because if you don’t there will be a 4v2 on the side they overloaded but if they do match the players then that’s when they switch to the other side
Guardiola wasn’t the creator of tiki-taka. Tiki-taka originated in 2007 with the Spanish national team under Luis Aragones; he was the first to field four short, technically gifted midfielders. Guardiola inherited the tiki-taka style because he inherited Xavi and Iniesta, who were the only two players with whom tiki-taka could be played, but he always combined them with a physical midfielder and Cruyff’s false nine. Only Luis Aragones played with four short players in midfield – the one and only true tiki-taka.
16:25 other people have already explained it but it's also because if you hold off for too long or give a good player too much space they can hurt you with the space they have that was left when someone doesn't press. it's also a bad idea to allow so many players in the midfield of the other team to overload because it's easy to have natural triangles or passing shapes that can easily be taken advantage of including having someone in the defensive teams pockets.
Wait till you see asymmetrical system. Looks broken from the outside but the formation and player movement created in such a way that it creates an advantage rather than disadvantage.
I am currently playing football manager 26. It's a football simulation game with real life players. You can create your own tactics and strategies from scratch. Currently I am running a Fortuna Dusseldorf 95 rebuild save, they are irl relegated to german 3rd division. My strategy is asymmetrical strikerless setup. In my case there is no dedicated right back. Yet it works. Football is really fun and weird to look at it once you step into deeper levels of football tactics. Sir Alex Ferguson for eg used a strikerless system during his 07-08 campaign. A lot of managers did some really crazy revolutionary tactics that gave them immense edge.
You create more mismatch when you do zonal. It’s extremely dangerous to do so against a prolific Messi or Ronaldo. Zonal marking doesn’t work unless players on both teams are equally (somewhat) on the same level.
the overload on one side of the pitch you can kinda compare it with how you guyz have the setup in NBA where you kinda push the defense of the other team to one side to create a 1 v 1 situation on the other side , so basically you either go with the 1 v 1 option and put the ball there , or do a fast combination on the overloaded area
I think the reason you may not quite get overload and switch is football is a far more fluid game than NFL so regardless of formation, if an opposing team concentrates players on one side if the pitch, opposition players will get drawn in to prevent overload. When this happens it is not always clear who should respond to the overload so often times a player gets left free or in more space than normal. I have seen my own team do this very effectively. Whats interesting is the player who makes the switch is often one who the opposition do not consider a good passer of the ball, such as a central defender, so you know its a rehearsed move. Incidentally l have noticed a new type of false striker in recent times. If you look st the stats compared to the past you will notice strikers are scoring fewer goals and l think that is because their role has changed. Their role now is more about engaging central defenders and lay offs rather being the main scorer. The reason is its much better to have goals coming from around the team rather than over rely on one player. There are exceptions such as Kane and Haaland but such talents are rare.
There's the question to be faced, are you leading, are you trailing, or is the score even? Also, are both teams full strength, or has one team had a man sent off? Remember, "No battle plan survives contact with the enemy." While you'd like to be able to improvise on the fly at all times, you still need to have an overall strategy for each of those situations I just mentioned. It won't be the same strategy for each situation.
Good lord, you talk in circles, and I don't think you really have a modicum of a clue as to what you're talking about. Thanks for the word salad, and I at least appreciate the effort.
You have to match players even if your playing zonal marking, because a 4 vs 2 on the side would be a walk through for the players on the side. Then the late centre back shift would kill you
On switching play, I’d compare it to saying a high press can’t be beaten by a long ball because the press “cuts off the passing lanes.” That isn’t how space works. A defensive structure takes things away by giving other things up.
If you overload one side, the defending team has to shift, compress, and protect the ball-side. If they don’t, you can play through the overload. If they do, the far side becomes the space to attack.
The point isn’t sideways passing for its own sake. It’s horizontal circulation used to create a new attacking moment after the initial transition has died. You drag the block across, then switch quickly enough to create an artificial transition on the opposite side before the defence can reset.
all tactics are valid if you have the proper players to used them effectively . A bad tactic can make a European champion turn into a mid table team easily with the same players on the pitch , the best coaches are the ones that make the best of what the club have. Mourinho won a champions League with team full of + 32 year olds ,.
The thing is that if you let the opposition acumulate play on one side of the pitch, they can move together inside of the box and because you are just waiting in zone they can outnumber your defense just on one half of the penalty box and create chances of scoring. So if you react you leave space on the other side of the pitch, if you dont react you allow the opposition to go at you with more numbers so more goal scoring oportunities.
16:20 If the defenders don't try to match numbers at all, it basically guarantees the attackers get a large mobile zone of the pitch where there are always safe passes. That becomes a problem for anyone who's decided to stay balanced when they inevitably get close to the box and within shooting range
Every playstyle depend of course on the team's players' profile. The reason you do the overload and switch is when you have wingers/fullbacks who operate better in open spaces or in 1vs1 so you keep creating overload on one and switching to the other giving the attacker on the wing the most space possible. As a tactic it needs midfielders who can operate in tight spaces with high level of one-touch short passing ability. If the defence step back you're giving the attacking players the space they like. This is were it gets tricky to counter from a defensive standpoint.
Thenx for the Ange Ball shout out because I am one of the few Manchester United fans who wanted Ange at United before Carrick was confirmed as permanent head coach..
Good on you mate ! You learnt so much 🙂 One thing I'd like to add though, unlike basketball or US football, football tactics choice are usually way more about "what can I do with my team" than "whatthe best tactic is". Every coach would love to be able to high press + possession + high block, because we all know it's the best combo overall but it's so demanding that you would need the very best player on earth at every position. It's not about wehther high pressing is better than low block, but "can my team sustain a high press for 90+ min?" . It's not about whether building from your backs is better than long balls but "are my guys technically good enough to handle the opp pressure". That's also the reason why some coach can only thrive managing big teams, because they don't know how to play with "average" players. On the other hand a more pragmatic coach who knows how to play with a limited budget and moderately talented player will more than likely struggle with a big team
The answer is the world class players who cannot be marked by one player (e.g arsenal’s Saka). You need to commit at least two players to them, sometimes more, to be safe. To help these players, their team does the overload on the opposite side then switch to them late in the play for the magic. The overload side is also potent and can be devastating if ignored so the defending team has no choice but to respond
In my opinion high press possession football requires a certain type of midfielder for example a Rodri, Debruyne, young Busquets, Vitinha or Pedri. People who are good with the ball in tight spaces, good at distribution and also win the ball. Spurs midfield is not great so this type of tactic does not work with them and they got punished.
8:26 Watch Mourinho with Madrid. They broke the goals record in La liga using this. Strong teams playing counter is different gravy with the correct personnel
yeah you’re kind of missing the point on the overload tactic.
First, it’s primarily used against teams they KNOW are heavy man marking. Of course it wouldn’t make as much sense to do this against a team with disciplined zonal/positional defending.
Second, for the teams that mastered this strategy, if the opposing teams DON’T try to match the numbers in the overload, then the attacking team will simply play easy 1-2s and form multiple triangles around defenders to bypass them with their numbers advantage to easily score, since the defense decided not to respond to the overload.
It’s an insanely difficult position that you put the entire defending team into every time you have the ball. Which means either every player is confused as hell and arguing with each other because some think they’re too wide and some too narrow, or the coach decides “we’re gonna defend it X way and that’s how we’ll do it the whole game”. it’s an organized defensive game plan at least, even if a flawed one. hope that helped!
Just a detail about tiki taka, it was not Guardiola who invented it, it was Luis Aragonés and Pepe just copied it while Barcelona paid refs to win in Spain and Europe
Sorry for the audio levels being different on the reaction video
You have to commit players for that overload because if you don’t there will be a 4v2 on the side they overloaded but if they do match the players then that’s when they switch to the other side
sucker what?
Guardiola wasn’t the creator of tiki-taka. Tiki-taka originated in 2007 with the Spanish national team under Luis Aragones; he was the first to field four short, technically gifted midfielders. Guardiola inherited the tiki-taka style because he inherited Xavi and Iniesta, who were the only two players with whom tiki-taka could be played, but he always combined them with a physical midfielder and Cruyff’s false nine. Only Luis Aragones played with four short players in midfield – the one and only true tiki-taka.
For future references, Messi is the alien.
16:25 other people have already explained it but it's also because if you hold off for too long or give a good player too much space they can hurt you with the space they have that was left when someone doesn't press. it's also a bad idea to allow so many players in the midfield of the other team to overload because it's easy to have natural triangles or passing shapes that can easily be taken advantage of including having someone in the defensive teams pockets.
If you played zonal against overloads, you'll be locally outnumbered and they will be able to do 1-2s or be free to cross into the danger zone.
Wait till you see asymmetrical system. Looks broken from the outside but the formation and player movement created in such a way that it creates an advantage rather than disadvantage.
I am currently playing football manager 26. It's a football simulation game with real life players. You can create your own tactics and strategies from scratch. Currently I am running a Fortuna Dusseldorf 95 rebuild save, they are irl relegated to german 3rd division. My strategy is asymmetrical strikerless setup. In my case there is no dedicated right back. Yet it works. Football is really fun and weird to look at it once you step into deeper levels of football tactics. Sir Alex Ferguson for eg used a strikerless system during his 07-08 campaign. A lot of managers did some really crazy revolutionary tactics that gave them immense edge.
You create more mismatch when you do zonal. It’s extremely dangerous to do so against a prolific Messi or Ronaldo. Zonal marking doesn’t work unless players on both teams are equally (somewhat) on the same level.
the overload on one side of the pitch you can kinda compare it with how you guyz have the setup in NBA where you kinda push the defense of the other team to one side to create a 1 v 1 situation on the other side , so basically you either go with the 1 v 1 option and put the ball there , or do a fast combination on the overloaded area
I think the reason you may not quite get overload and switch is football is a far more fluid game than NFL so regardless of formation, if an opposing team concentrates players on one side if the pitch, opposition players will get drawn in to prevent overload. When this happens it is not always clear who should respond to the overload so often times a player gets left free or in more space than normal. I have seen my own team do this very effectively. Whats interesting is the player who makes the switch is often one who the opposition do not consider a good passer of the ball, such as a central defender, so you know its a rehearsed move. Incidentally l have noticed a new type of false striker in recent times. If you look st the stats compared to the past you will notice strikers are scoring fewer goals and l think that is because their role has changed. Their role now is more about engaging central defenders and lay offs rather being the main scorer. The reason is its much better to have goals coming from around the team rather than over rely on one player. There are exceptions such as Kane and Haaland but such talents are rare.
As a Mavericks fan, having to hear the name Nico Harrison in a Football tactics video is unfortunate.
There's the question to be faced, are you leading, are you trailing, or is the score even? Also, are both teams full strength, or has one team had a man sent off? Remember, "No battle plan survives contact with the enemy." While you'd like to be able to improvise on the fly at all times, you still need to have an overall strategy for each of those situations I just mentioned. It won't be the same strategy for each situation.
I've never watched an American football game, and probably never will, but your analysis was interesting. Thank you for this!
Good lord, you talk in circles, and I don't think you really have a modicum of a clue as to what you're talking about. Thanks for the word salad, and I at least appreciate the effort.
You have to match players even if your playing zonal marking, because a 4 vs 2 on the side would be a walk through for the players on the side. Then the late centre back shift would kill you
"american football" is correct, thats how we call american football
On switching play, I’d compare it to saying a high press can’t be beaten by a long ball because the press “cuts off the passing lanes.” That isn’t how space works. A defensive structure takes things away by giving other things up.
If you overload one side, the defending team has to shift, compress, and protect the ball-side. If they don’t, you can play through the overload. If they do, the far side becomes the space to attack.
The point isn’t sideways passing for its own sake. It’s horizontal circulation used to create a new attacking moment after the initial transition has died. You drag the block across, then switch quickly enough to create an artificial transition on the opposite side before the defence can reset.
all tactics are valid if you have the proper players to used them effectively . A bad tactic can make a European champion turn into a mid table team easily with the same players on the pitch , the best coaches are the ones that make the best of what the club have. Mourinho won a champions League with team full of + 32 year olds ,.
The thing is that if you let the opposition acumulate play on one side of the pitch, they can move together inside of the box and because you are just waiting in zone they can outnumber your defense just on one half of the penalty box and create chances of scoring. So if you react you leave space on the other side of the pitch, if you dont react you allow the opposition to go at you with more numbers so more goal scoring oportunities.
we’ve got the best pitch in the world. up the vale
Soccer? What is it? Is it food?
you talk too much
Missing the most basic formation that all kids use when starting football. Having all 20 outfield players chase the ball like flies around honey.
16:20 If the defenders don't try to match numbers at all, it basically guarantees the attackers get a large mobile zone of the pitch where there are always safe passes. That becomes a problem for anyone who's decided to stay balanced when they inevitably get close to the box and within shooting range
Every playstyle depend of course on the team's players' profile. The reason you do the overload and switch is when you have wingers/fullbacks who operate better in open spaces or in 1vs1 so you keep creating overload on one and switching to the other giving the attacker on the wing the most space possible. As a tactic it needs midfielders who can operate in tight spaces with high level of one-touch short passing ability.
If the defence step back you're giving the attacking players the space they like. This is were it gets tricky to counter from a defensive standpoint.
Thenx for the Ange Ball shout out because I am one of the few Manchester United fans who wanted Ange at United before Carrick was confirmed as permanent head coach..
Good on you mate ! You learnt so much 🙂
One thing I'd like to add though, unlike basketball or US football, football tactics choice are usually way more about "what can I do with my team" than "whatthe best tactic is". Every coach would love to be able to high press + possession + high block, because we all know it's the best combo overall but it's so demanding that you would need the very best player on earth at every position. It's not about wehther high pressing is better than low block, but "can my team sustain a high press for 90+ min?" . It's not about whether building from your backs is better than long balls but "are my guys technically good enough to handle the opp pressure". That's also the reason why some coach can only thrive managing big teams, because they don't know how to play with "average" players. On the other hand a more pragmatic coach who knows how to play with a limited budget and moderately talented player will more than likely struggle with a big team
Kick and rush is my favourite
You should try out Football manager. It'd be interesting to watch your play
16:44 which is why it became harder for Arsenal to score goals, because teams chose to defend deeper and stayed compact.
Re: Overload, think of a Flood Play.
If you don't move defenders over, a QB can just pick the pass that the DB doesn't pick up.
The answer is the world class players who cannot be marked by one player (e.g arsenal’s Saka). You need to commit at least two players to them, sometimes more, to be safe. To help these players, their team does the overload on the opposite side then switch to them late in the play for the magic.
The overload side is also potent and can be devastating if ignored so the defending team has no choice but to respond
In my opinion high press possession football requires a certain type of midfielder for example a Rodri, Debruyne, young Busquets, Vitinha or Pedri. People who are good with the ball in tight spaces, good at distribution and also win the ball. Spurs midfield is not great so this type of tactic does not work with them and they got punished.
8:26 Watch Mourinho with Madrid. They broke the goals record in La liga using this. Strong teams playing counter is different gravy with the correct personnel
yeah you’re kind of missing the point on the overload tactic.
First, it’s primarily used against teams they KNOW are heavy man marking. Of course it wouldn’t make as much sense to do this against a team with disciplined zonal/positional defending.
Second, for the teams that mastered this strategy, if the opposing teams DON’T try to match the numbers in the overload, then the attacking team will simply play easy 1-2s and form multiple triangles around defenders to bypass them with their numbers advantage to easily score, since the defense decided not to respond to the overload.
It’s an insanely difficult position that you put the entire defending team into every time you have the ball. Which means either every player is confused as hell and arguing with each other because some think they’re too wide and some too narrow, or the coach decides “we’re gonna defend it X way and that’s how we’ll do it the whole game”. it’s an organized defensive game plan at least, even if a flawed one. hope that helped!
Just a detail about tiki taka, it was not Guardiola who invented it, it was Luis Aragonés and Pepe just copied it while Barcelona paid refs to win in Spain and Europe
drake meme:
making ai vidoes, nah
reacting to ai videos, heck yeah